{"id":11056,"date":"2024-10-09T11:29:19","date_gmt":"2024-10-09T11:29:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/aida-arredondo\/"},"modified":"2024-10-14T13:03:42","modified_gmt":"2024-10-14T13:03:42","slug":"aida-arredondo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/es\/aida-arredondo\/","title":{"rendered":"AIDA ARREDONDO"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"11056\" class=\"elementor elementor-11056 elementor-11010\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-186dcd0 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"186dcd0\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f5af4b7 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f5af4b7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-07930a3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"07930a3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>INTERVIEW<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-acf4206 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"acf4206\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">AIDA ARREDONDO<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-951b21b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"951b21b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h4>One of the first Grapat Mothers<\/h4>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-70dab78 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"70dab78\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-79bcbe9 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"79bcbe9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-efb18fc elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"efb18fc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"1208\" src=\"https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_02.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-11020\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_02.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_02-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_02-678x1024.jpg 678w, https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_02-768x1160.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a35d906 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a35d906\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b4779df elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b4779df\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Aida is 38 years old. She is an educator and has worked in various fields of education, eventually specializing in early childhood education. The year her first daughter, Anna, was born, she decided to stop working and devote herself fully to her daughter, sparking an interest in alternative education methods and natural play materials after studying the Montessori and Waldorf methodologies. She is from Terrassa, where she lives with her partner and her two kids: Anna, who is seven, and her younger son, Jordi, who is three. This is where we meet her and her family, at the Masia Freixa Park in Terrassa. We sit on a bench while Mois\u00e8s, her partner, takes the kids to play in this place full of life.<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c7d0a9a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"c7d0a9a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f635bcc e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f635bcc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fde01f7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"fde01f7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>Hi Aida! How did you discover Grapat?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e53548a e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e53548a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-449c2d0 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"449c2d0\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3fca09c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3fca09c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0314be5 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"0314be5\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b2a5ef4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b2a5ef4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I already knew about Grapat before Anna was born. The arrival of Grapat coincided with my personal growth in the field of education. As I became more interested in alternative education methods, I also began exploring different types of non structured materials. At the school where I worked, everything was very rigid, a lot of plastic, boxes of toys with very specific functions. Then, all of a sudden, I discovered a showroom with Montessori toys loved finding material like those from Grapat.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4a0f52c e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4a0f52c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-68c34e2 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"68c34e2\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8f7f135 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8f7f135\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>It&#8217;s really interesting that you discovered all these materials while also discovering yourself within the educational field. Which I think also strongly reinforces the philosophy behind this kind of pedagogy. When was the first time you encountered a Nin? <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f643042 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f643042\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ab7e151 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"ab7e151\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fe4800f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"fe4800f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e6b5956 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e6b5956\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-15642e1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"15642e1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Well, the first time I came across something from Grapat, it wasn&#8217;t actually a Nin. About six years ago when Anna was very young, I had a bunch of loose pieces and wrote to Casiana to personally recommend materials based on her needs, so we started with the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/shop.grapat.eu\/en\/kits\/56-bowls-balls-8436580870061.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">balls and bowls<\/a><\/span> \u2014it was amazing! The pack came with a small bag for carrying the materials and Anna used it to store her dolls. It was later when I discovered the Season Nins. The first box we bought was the <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/shop.grapat.eu\/en\/kits\/38-aguamarina-winter.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">winter one<\/a><\/span>. There are many Nins that I keep more for myself\u2014I don\u2019t make them as available to the kids.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f04aed9 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"f04aed9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8e3b76c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"8e3b76c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3b76b88 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3b76b88\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>Do you keep some just for yourself? Do you play with them as adults?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f99d989 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f99d989\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ce4918f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"ce4918f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-931e3b0 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"931e3b0\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-347d2ed e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"347d2ed\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-93b1dc6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"93b1dc6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I\u2019ve used Grapat pieces a lot with a friend who works with systemic pedagogy. When attending training sessions, there\u2019s a clear difference in people&#8217;s mood between presentations and materials shown to us on a laptop and those where we\u2019re given bags with natural materials and start building with them. Of course, family life is busy\u2014being a mother of two takes up a lot of time and I don\u2019t have much left to play! But what I truly enjoy is observing while they play, staying in the background. It\u2019s fascinating to see what they discover with the pieces they have. I also use the seasonal box a lot, and there are many pieces, especially from limited editions, that we carefully store on specific shelves. In fact, we\u2019d like to make a shelf like the one you have in the workshop to keep everything in one place, adding beauty and possibilities to our home.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d67ccf9 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"d67ccf9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-491bc43 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"491bc43\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-458fe1b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"458fe1b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u201cBut what I truly enjoy is observing while they play, staying in the background. It\u2019s fascinating to see what they discover with the pieces they have.\u201d<\/strong><\/h3>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0727bc1 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"0727bc1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d6319fe e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d6319fe\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-92f0bc8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"92f0bc8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>So, for you, these pieces hold a lot of emotional value?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6ad4705 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6ad4705\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9aacab9 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"9aacab9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3cb776b e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3cb776b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-00c1094 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"00c1094\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b878b50 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b878b50\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Yes, yes, yes. These are objects that we try to take great care of \u2014and we want the kids to value them too because it\u2019s important to us that these pieces are passed down to the next generation. I\u2019ve told Casiana many times that wood has a special value for me. My father was a carpenter and wood brings me back to my childhood. It&#8217;s radically different from plastic\u2014the texture, the temperature&#8230; it&#8217;s alive!<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-47f954b e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"47f954b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-babeb65 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"babeb65\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1945c9c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1945c9c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>So you assume these pieces will be passed down as an inheritance, right? <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d6cb4ee e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d6cb4ee\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-973e222 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"973e222\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-87ad64b e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"87ad64b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4b459cb e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4b459cb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d2e5d23 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d2e5d23\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Absolutely. We\u2019re aware that we live in a world that constantly pushes for renewal, but we try to make sure that our educational philosophy is also reflected in the number of things we own and how we care for them. We have few things, so we prioritize ensuring the quality of those things is the best.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6844664 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"6844664\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c63d010 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"c63d010\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d202b8f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d202b8f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>Considering that, how have these pieces adapted to your play space?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e0bca1e e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e0bca1e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f173af2 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"f173af2\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f27191d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f27191d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9b4ba13 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"9b4ba13\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7fa7102 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7fa7102\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Play evolves. There are materials that Anna used first, and now Jordi uses them. Some materials we\u2019ve had to put out of reach due to their age. Generally, I try to rotate them based on the seasons and their needs, but I always make sure there are certain toys that are always there. I know there are pieces they may not touch for a month, but it\u2019s important to me that they know those materials will always be there, even if they don\u2019t use them daily\u2014there are certain toys they should always be able to count on.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7efddfb e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"7efddfb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-63db944 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"63db944\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"530\" src=\"https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_03.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-11026\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_03.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_03-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.grapat.eu\/app\/uploads\/2024\/10\/AIDA_Newsletter_Autumn_03-768x509.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-84b0bac e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"84b0bac\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3da3d21 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3da3d21\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c952c8e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c952c8e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>Earlier, you mentioned your father was a carpenter. What did you play with when you were a child? <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7d4dab1 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"7d4dab1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-242e67b e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"242e67b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7788d76 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"7788d76\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-96eb8d8 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"96eb8d8\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-923c60e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"923c60e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I remember spending a lot of time in my grandparents\u2019 garden, playing with tomatoes, peppers\u2026 I remember being there with all the produce, carrying them, moving them, discovering everything the earth gave us.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9c937f5 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"9c937f5\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f396d55 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f396d55\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b2f57fb elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b2f57fb\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>Do you try to pass that down to your children?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0109468 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"0109468\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-96578c7 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"96578c7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2ecb1cf e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2ecb1cf\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-274d293 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"274d293\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b0aa44e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b0aa44e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I try to. It\u2019s easier to pass these things down when you\u2019ve experienced them yourself, even though not everything is idyllic and magical. Terrassa is a small city, but it\u2019s still very urban and there\u2019s the reality of everyday life, the rush. But yes, I do try to protect their childhood. I love the forest\u2014it\u2019s a refuge that allows for the discovery of a stick, a ladybug, a pinecone\u2026 Even though I try to bring my children closer to that world as much as I can, sometimes a toy with batteries finds its way into our home&#8230; they make a lot of noise and I try to make them disappear quickly (Aida laughs). I\u2019d like to keep them away from such toys for as long as possible, as well as from video games, which I think children are exposed to too early.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c9b0cf4 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"c9b0cf4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e3156b3 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e3156b3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7f2682a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7f2682a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>In the end, it\u2019s about creating an environment, a refuge amidst all this chaos, a place where they can grow peacefully, right?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3cfeed4 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3cfeed4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9b437e8 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"9b437e8\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1ca7dc9 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"1ca7dc9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fb2fd0f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"fb2fd0f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-17b88be elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"17b88be\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div><p>Yes. We\u2019re lucky that the school they attend shares the same philosophy, though not all of our friends do. That\u2019s why we don\u2019t completely rule out plastic toys, but we always prioritize natural materials.<\/p><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e3bd0da e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"e3bd0da\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-eb55b30 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"eb55b30\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7a3584e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7a3584e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>\u00a0As a mother, what elements\u2014whether Grapat pieces or elements from nature\u2014do you think enrich your children\u2019s play or children in general, given your background as a teacher?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a6b8566 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a6b8566\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0d47927 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"0d47927\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1402dcb e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"1402dcb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-434752b e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"434752b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-59928c1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"59928c1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I\u2019m interested in materials that are not overly structured. For example, we went to see a circus performance, and the following week, Anna spent her time building a structure with all the pieces reproducing the trapeze bars, reimagining the entire show through what she had seen the previous week. Only these kinds of toys allow for that, because if I gave her a plastic figure with too much information, like a pirate, it wouldn\u2019t let her think or express what she felt watching that show in her own way. Her own experiences filter through her perspective. These types of pieces allow her to imagine freely, whereas when play is too structured, there are more limitations. It\u2019s a bit like coloring books: if I give her a closed shape to color in, I\u2019m already limiting her. I\u2019m not giving her a blank sheet to do whatever she wants. This is a pedagogical realization that I didn\u2019t have when I finished my teaching degree. I was used to working with worksheets for reading, handwriting and other very specific tasks. But when I became a mother, it was like a wake-up call: everything I had learned at university didn\u2019t quite fit anymore.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1d8a475 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"1d8a475\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c172400 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"c172400\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a83974e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a83974e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u201cI was used to working with worksheets for reading, handwriting and other very specific tasks. But when I became a mother, it was like a wake-up call: everything I had learned at university didn\u2019t quite fit anymore.\u201d<\/strong><\/h3>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-83c55f4 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"83c55f4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0976843 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"0976843\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2245175 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2245175\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>Let\u2019s say a friend of yours becomes a mother: Since you realized all this more radically after becoming a mother,\u2014what would you gift her? <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0194045 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"0194045\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-53b9123 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"53b9123\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ae47f88 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"ae47f88\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d127805 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d127805\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-58ad464 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"58ad464\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I\u2019ve given Grapat pieces as gifts, but the most useful thing I\u2019ve ever given is food containers\u2026 It\u2019s the best thing when you\u2019ve just become a mom! (Aida laughs)<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cec0cc1 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"cec0cc1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7b189b6 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"7b189b6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7d8bcc0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7d8bcc0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Suddenly, Anna comes over and sits with us on the bench.<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5ecd970 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"5ecd970\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6f684b2 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6f684b2\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-32d9200 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"32d9200\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong>(Adressing Anna) Your mother told me she loves watching you play! What do you like doing the most? <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e81aa16 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e81aa16\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-41ca4dd e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"41ca4dd\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-46bbdd1 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"46bbdd1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fda169f e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"fda169f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-83efa5d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"83efa5d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Anna is currently really into making mandalas, but what she loves most is creating little theater scenes. She uses the Nins a lot and she\u2019s also really fond of the Ostheimer animals. 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